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« on: August 31, 2007, 08:41:21 AM » |
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Question - there's a thread on NAM that says MINI has begun using wheel sensors for the flat tire monitor. My car is one of the newest in country having come off the boat just last week (nice to live near the port, trucked Monday & delivered tuesday) I see no hint that this is the case either on the car or in the manual.
Has it changed?
Is the change in the works?
? is aimed at CF folks..... any real poop from BMW????
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2007, 09:32:51 AM » |
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Soo... something in the wheels themselves, as opposed to the existing abs sensor?
That would be irritating to me, because who wants to be stuck with stock wheels just to keep that as an option? Or is it something that could be moved elsewhere?
Good catch BJ... keep us posted on what you might find.
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2007, 10:22:25 AM » |
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according to my dealer here - the change happens in 08's ... however the poster on NAM says their stems clearly read 'TPM inside'
could it be they are putting the stems on some wheels but the change hasn't happened inside yet???? The system can be added to a wheel/stem at about $60 per I believe.... I think I'm glad I snuk under the wire
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2007, 09:17:12 PM » |
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Just a note- the sensor can be removed, the valve stem cut off, and the sensor itself epoxyed onto the inner side of the rim of your choice if it is similar to the ones on Nissans (and likely many other manufacturer's vehicles). They can be quite pricey to replace- the ones for Hyundais are $148 each on the new Sonata. I've yet to see this particular sensor or a recent BMW unit but I would guess they're all quite similar. As such, the swap to an aftermarket wheel is a pain in the butt (and if they need to be recalibrated with the new system, a bit more so) but it can be done. But the good news is there is still freedom of choice.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2007, 01:03:41 PM » |
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That is the truth about the new flat tire monitoring system using sensors on the inside of the wheel. It is not something that is starting in 2008, it was a running change in 2007 models.. If you just recently picked up your car, I'd say within about 2 months or so then they should have the new system. I think they started it in August production. The sensors are on the inside of the wheel and The newer MINI wheels are designed for the proper fit of the sensor. Now I am no tech so whether or not you could just throw the sensors on a different set of wheels I don't think that would be the case. I know that it does have to deal with an actually sensor andpossibly something with the stem. It has been on BMW's how a bit now, because it allows to individual monitor tires separately. If you guys have more questions about it, I can find out more, but this is what I know of the new system!
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2007, 01:07:44 PM » |
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One way to tell whether or not you have the system is if you look at the stock valve stem caps, they are not little things, they're huge with a round flat top. I will work on a pic of them, but I think it was august production that it started. I will check out some of the production dates on cvehicles that we have here. I have one on the show room that was July production that does not have the new system, so it make just be august. i will report back!
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2011, 02:33:53 PM » |
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I am removing the wheels that came with my 09 Cooper S and replacing with another set of MINI wheels. I don't know what year MINI they came with, but they do carry the original run flats on them.
I do not understand how the flat tire sensor works.
I do not know if there are sensors in the wheel/or if there needs to be. After changing out the wheels do I simply reset my flat tire sensor from in the cabin of the car and that takes care of things. Or is there something I need to do to the wheel?
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2011, 05:29:59 PM » |
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2007 had sensors, but early models did not have them in the wheels. Some late 2007 models had the sensors in the wheels. 2008-2010 use a specific sensor, and there is one in each wheel. 2011 uses the same type of sensors, but they won't work on 2008-2010 models, or late 2007 models. I have 2 sets of 2009 sensors available if someone needs them.
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2011, 06:26:26 PM » |
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Mike, Tug is, as you should well know, an early early 2007 build and he doesn't have sensors in his wheels. His flat tire system works off of the ABS sensors or something else. He won't tell you which tire is flat, only that one of them IS flat.
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2011, 07:57:11 PM » |
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Same thing with Tyler's 07. We'd play with the pressures a bit at Langley, We'd bump the right front up to 40 and the right rear up to 42 and leave the left sides at 32-ish. After a lap or two, the light would cone on. So it must be a rotation counting thing. But they weren't low, for sure. After the night. we'd put them back to stock pressures and the light would go out.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2011, 01:22:59 AM » |
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If memory serves, the default flat (or low) detector works with the ABS speed sensors on each wheel (i.e. it counts wheel revolutions). I think the other style uses sensors mounted on the rims inside the tires. If that's what you have, I'm not sure exactly how transfer them.
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2011, 01:42:52 AM » |
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Thinking that Kathy's car must have the in the wheel sensors. It's a late '09 build, and had the huge valve stem caps on it at delivery. She has since had the tires filled with nitrogen @ CF, and they changed the valve stem caps to the green ones that designate the nitrogen fill. The extra wheel and tire set that she wants to put on the car now had no valve stem caps on them when she bought them, and we do not know (remember) what year Mini they came off of. Anyone know of any way to determine if the sensors are in the wheel/tire assy. just by looking at it ?
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2011, 06:14:27 AM » |
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If the valve stem has a 10mm "sleeve" that can be removed, the wheel has a sensor. A tire shop can transfer the sensors to the new wheels. The tire needs to be deflated for this, obviously.
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2011, 08:12:55 AM » |
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Mike's correct about the 10mm valve sleeve. It's fat and grey below the top portion to the wheel. After looking at the sensor for my 08 just the other day and installing it, I don't believe that particular stem can be used without the sensor because of it's design. It actually screws onto the threaded sensor itself. You may have to have a tire shop deflate one wheel and check.
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2011, 02:38:53 AM » |
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I forgot about the special valve stems. That sounds right.
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