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« on: August 16, 2006, 08:20:54 PM »

As most of you know, I'm a newbie to the Hampton Roads area and don't know what kind of winter to expect. I've been told that it doesn't snow much, but it does get icy at times.

In sunny So Cali I had Ultra High Performance Summer tires (Parada Spec II's) and I like them a lot. It's getting about time to get Peanut a new set of booties and I wonder if I can get away with summer tires through a Hampton Roads winter?

Any suggestions or insights would be helpful. Thanks!

Jenn
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2006, 09:58:34 PM »

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As most of you know, I'm a newbie to the Hampton Roads area and don't know what kind of winter to expect. I've been told that it doesn't snow much, but it does get icy at times.

In sunny So Cali I had Ultra High Performance Summer tires (Parada Spec II's) and I like them a lot. It's getting about time to get Peanut a new set of booties and I wonder if I can get away with summer tires through a Hampton Roads winter?

Any suggestions or insights would be helpful. Thanks!

Jenn

Maybe.
What you need to watch for though is that often Summer tires don't have good wet weather performance. Wet performance you really want around here.
Nothing works on ice but studs so just set that one aside.

I run Goodrich Traction TAs

Are you keeping the run flats? Keeping stock size?

I'd stick with All Season TBH.
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2006, 10:45:15 PM »

That is what I was afraid of. I need to put new tires on the stock wheels, but will still run my Goodyear Eagle F1's during the summer - and 100% of the time after the wife gets a job and the MINI is a dedicated hobby car.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2006, 05:33:13 AM »

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What you need to watch for though is that often Summer tires don't have gos wet weather performance. Wet performance you really want around here.
Nothing works on ice but studs so just set that one aside.

I run Goodrich Traction TAs

Are you keeping the run flats? Keeping stock size?

I'd stick with All Season TBH.

Thanks Obe. Good to know.

I haven't had the stock runflats for several years now... I don't even have my stock rims. I sold them to get my current Kosei K1 racing wheels, which is what I have on her now. They're 17's, so I guess you could call them stock size, though I started with the 16" V spokes.

I'll look up the wet weather ratings for my Parada Spec II's. I think they're decent in wet but I could probably do better.

Do we get much ice around here? Just curious...

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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2006, 05:40:25 AM »

Does anyone know anything about these?

Avon Tech M550 A/S

They're looking like they might be a good choice. Not as much performance as I'm used to, but good for an All Season.

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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2006, 07:15:11 AM »

IMO these are the best all aound tire, and has great rateings too..

http://www.edgeracing.com/tire/895/
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2006, 07:55:58 AM »

I'm biased .... I learned to drive in a 66 Mustang in the snow belt.  With that experience I lived for several years, driving heavy snow in a Miata.

Drove the Miata here 'til I bought the 02 and did 2 winters on the P'relli 17 rf's - and then went to Yoko ES100's....not exactly all wx tires....

We don't get many days of snow around here in a 'typical winter' what ever that is.  When we do, most employers seem to understand that at the second flurry life is gonna stop.  The schools will all close at the first hint of snow and parents calling in starts immediately thereafter.  If we get 2 flurries I see less than half my staff!

Do I drive careful in snow - you bet.  The more common problem is deep standing water tho.  While we don't get much snow - there is occasional ice and as said by others and ice day is a great day to call in for a weather day....but more common is a heavy fall or spring rain and frankly the area ain't got the best road construction.  I've launched into full hydro-plane on 264 twice....and the new constrction on 64 in HR has been redone because of?  poor drainage....

Snow tires - no

all seasons - maybe

sports - doable with care, watch wet performance.  Watch more for standing water...

this works 4 me on both the MINI and the Miata....
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2006, 08:26:25 AM »

You will get many answers to this question. I found these to be the best all around solution for my needs, (price, traction, quality, life, ride),
in no particular order.

http://edgeracing.com/tire/768/
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2006, 09:11:47 AM »

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Does anyone know anything about these?

Avon Tech M550 A/S

They're looking like they might be a good choice. Not as much performance as I'm used to, but good for an All Season.

Jenn

Always comes down to money 002

The P Zero Nero M&S specs better and gets very good reviews. $114 ea. in 215-40 x 17


Then again, if it snows stay home, then you can buy the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 8)  $146 ea  119

Best bet. Call the guys at TireRack or Edge Racing.
They really know what they're talking about.
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2006, 04:46:11 PM »

I learned to drive in Colorado, been stationed in Iceland and Antarctica.. When it snows here, I worry less about what tires I have than what the other idiot is gonna do..   My MINI is not my daily driver so I can run my Falkens all year, I personnally do not think you will ever justify a pure snow tire more than once a year, and that rarely lasts all day.  If you have two sets of wheels then a performance All Season will make you very happy..  I agree the BFG Traction TA looks like a good tire, but I haven't run them.

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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2006, 05:46:01 PM »

I can vouch for the Pirelli P Zero Nero's...  They've done me right around here for the last year and a half, with probably another year and a half left on em if I don't ruin em totally autocrossing.   119   They do very well in the wet, so well in fact I can approach scary grip levels without much fear.  They are also nice and QUIET... a key feature for me.  I like to hear my supercharger too much.

Alan...  I'm a Colorado man myself... graduated from Arapahoe HS in Littleton in 93.  I do miss it sometimes.
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2006, 12:47:26 PM »

I recently (500 miles) put some Dunlop SP FM901 on Q and I love the ability. Excellent wet and dry holding. I imagine for what little snow we see they will be fine. I'm from the mountains in the north so snow is nothing new. I think only once did the snow actually stick to the ground last year.
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2006, 10:38:35 PM »

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I recently (500 miles) put some Dunlop SP FM901 on Q and I love the ability. Excellent wet and dry holding. I imagine for what little snow we see they will be fine. I'm from the mountains in the north so snow is nothing new. I think only once did the snow actually stick to the ground last year.

Great, now we're in for the worst winter ever!  

oh wait, that would rock!!  yay :P
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2006, 03:40:56 PM »

I just bought a set of AVON tires from tirerack.  I just had them mounted on a set of s-lites.  I plan on putting them on the car once I get home from work today. I will keep you posted on how well they do on the car.  My thought in buying them was, sure the price is nice (105 pc.) but I also like that they were A/S.  I am hoping they out perform the run flats that came on the car.
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2006, 05:53:48 PM »

Totally different advice, but why not buy a well used Jeep to run on bad weather days, and let your MINI snooze in the garage?  8)
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